»Creative Suggestions

Discussion in 'Suggestions & Feedback' started by iHasShadowHD, Dec 5, 2018.

  1. iHasShadowHD

    iHasShadowHD aka Verang Staff Member HeadAdmin

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    Hello community,
    I am posting this due to my past experience with successful creative servers and I'd like to share my thoughts & suggestions with the community, hopefully for the betterment of the server, mainly these suggestions were used before, but the reason I'm posting them is because - as a builder, I am limited in the creative server (I know I have build server, but many don't) Yes I understand, that world edit permissions come with privileges etc, but I don't think we should mainly focus in p2w or vote to play, since creative isn't really nowhere close to be the main source of income in GC, so here we go.

    The main reason that these are being suggested, are because:
    • GuildCraft creative system is limiting many possible talents to their current system.
    • GuildCraft creative system is mainly based in a roleplay server rather than a building server.
    • GuildCraft creative system is out-dated, and has not been changed for the past 4 years.
    I think it's time for a change, which could - or should I say WOULD, improve the server and increase it's playerbase.

    Please note that this is a system where the ideas are mainly based from a reset we were planing 2 years ago, but it never happened due to some management issues, and mainly KinqCake resigning, I believe that this creative system is perfect, and it could be perfected even more. I'm sorry that it is not brief, but I've tried my best, to explain as much detail as I could think of from the top of my head.

    A ranking system
    Currently, the only ranking systems are Member - Paid - Staff, there's no reward for people who are active therefor we are not currently giving a reason for people to play (be active). In qubion, they had this really interesting system where you would rank up and get a bigger plot/world edit permissions by submitting your plot (the plugin already exist, and this is the main reason of why it was created by DiscoDuck - an Ex Head Admin).

    This system was practiced in divinefreebuild, a really successful server, and is currently being used in BuildersRefuge, a really successful server as well which is not based in income. They have the ranking system of, Global - Member - Staff. I'm not saying we should remove all staff ranks, I'm just we should create a ranking system, of 3 ranks (I) (II) (III), and below I share my opinion of why we should do it.

    World Edit Permissions
    Yes, I do believe we should remove world edit permissions from members and limit the permissions that /vote give to only //pos1 //pos2 //set and //thru for 15 mins. This would be a great way to attract players to the build to rankup system. Where they build something, and a member from the build team & the head admin can review their plot and promote him into the next rank (II).

    Where they get Advanced world edit perms, that they can use for terraforming (voxelsniper), replacing, copying, pasting, coloring.

    Voxelsniper
    I don't think it's worth to make an argument here, due to voxel sniper being a huge MUST add addition to the server. Simply because, world edit is outdated - terraforming wise.

    And if we want to attract good builders, then I simply say we should add it, together with goBrush and such.

    Infinite plots
    Infinite plots, are definitely a must. Builders are currently limited to small plots, and public worlds where they can not build private projects at without being scared of them being stolen.

    This is why we add private worlds, they are infinite plots (PlotSquared, currently allows this in their world creation config). BuildersRefuge, also has this feature where non-members get limited plot size to 501x501, or 51x51 and members have their own private worlds/infinite plots.

    Disable some permissions
    We should disable /plot v, especially if we're going to add the suggestions above, due to people liking more privacy. And there's a reason we have /tpa. I don't think anyone should visit others private plot without consent.

    As I've said above, we should also limit world edit use from /vote if we want to attract players and get them to be more active.

    What ranks should be able to do
    (I) Simple world edit permissions, no voxelsniper, builder utilities 501x501, world or smaller.
    (II) Advanced world edit permissions, and simple voxelsniper, builder utilities, gobrush, 501x501 world or smaller.
    (III) Expert world edit permissions, and advanced voxelsniper, builder utilities, gobrush, craftscripts, infinite plots or smaller.

    How would GC benefit?
    It wouldn't, benefit nor lose anything from this. The same way as it benefited before - cosmetic ranks. Creative currently has no p2w available from shop, so the ranks that we have that we bought from more than 2 years ago, are worthless. So I don't see how this system would ruin GC.

    How will these ranks look? Basically the (I-III) Will be used as suffix. For instance:
    [HeadBuilder] Verang (III): Hello world.

    Conclusion?
    Make creative less limited to builders, I believe we could improve the build team and the creative server if we are giving builders opportunity to build freely. Currently, what the server is doing is mainly focused in being a roleplay server rather than a creative server, I believe it's time to change that.

    Note that - The thread, and suggestions might occasionally change, varying on my ideas.

    Verang, why are you posting this suggestion here when you can just DM aXed or Elise?Because creative is not the server I manage therefor it's not my responsibility on what happens there, of course I would love to see it succeed as it's one of my favorite servers among all of them, and I want to see your opinions in this.
    I was really sleepy when I wrote this, if you notice any grammar mistake, or any sentence that you do not understand please DM me :oops:
     
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  2. JayJay05072003

    JayJay05072003 Skywars Skrub Mod

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    Yes!! I love this idea, especially the other building plugins rather than world edit. We could create more ranks based on activity or we could add ranks purchasable via in game money.
     
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  3. Frxq15

    Frxq15 Kappa Member

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    Nice suggestions hope they get added kek
     
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  4. Xeph

    Xeph Big Mood Admin

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    I remember when I first played Minecraft before I bought the game and I didn't want to download cracked Minecraft, I played Classic Edition when it was in Minecraft's browser.

    There was this one server where if you built good buildings, you can be promoted and earn extra perks which is the same concept here and it was really fun because it kept challenging you to keep building and get them perks.

    Previously I have mentioned about an addition regarding building perks and ranking up, alongside these other building mechanics so it's a definite +1 from me.

    Great suggestions.

    ~ xeph xo
     
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  5. cptironspider

    cptironspider Admin Admin

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    Excellent suggestions. Although Creative is something I don't understand really I feel the suggestions could improve the server and give the players something to play for. That's coming from someone who has never touched the server and that tells a lot.

    A definite +1 from me.
     
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  6. Elise1886

    Elise1886 Goddess of Creation Staff Member HeadAdmin

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    I actually have the builder ranks laid out but am limited because I cannot add plugins. Certain builders who are good builders have already got the level 1 version of this which gives unlimited world edit. I will look into the other suggestions said here such as infinite plots for builders.
     
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  7. iHasShadowHD

    iHasShadowHD aka Verang Staff Member HeadAdmin

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    Builders, or people who apply for the rank, for example they make a trial plot, someone reviews the plot and they chose to promote him to rank 1 - 2 and 3 based on his skill. For instance, his plot has to be fully completed, and they have to use /build submit if they want to apply for the next rank. It can be anyone, not just builders :D, so people are more active and are encouraged to play.

    Basically, everyone has to apply for a rank by doing /build submit. For instance,
    1: Completes a plot
    1: Submits it
    Staff: Accept the application
    1: Gets rank (I)/(II)/(III)
    Every rank, has their own permissions.
     
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  8. Blazimers

    Blazimers Mod Mod

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    This is an amazing idea in my opinion, however there is definitely some flaws with this. I like the fact that it's rewarding the players for their building skills however the way these players are selected could be a potential problem, every builder's opinion is different from one another, some may like some plots that others don't. Another potential problem could be that some builders (or maybe even the head-admin) could be biased towards selecting who ranks-up. To tackle this flaw i suggest it should be a grouped-decision instead of a single person's decision. This would benefit this idea as it will kill 2 birds with 1 stone by minimising any potential-biased decisions. Following this idea i believe not all builders should be able to vote on this but rather some selected builders as some builders are better than others.

    This idea would 100% support your previous idea about the ranking-up system, however world-edit shouldn't be this limited towards players as there are some players (specially new ones) who aren't very good at building. I believe that you should also allow some other SIMPLE commands such as //copy & //paste and possibly //walls. This should be done so that non-skilled players can also have a chance of building. Also if anyone wants to rank up to II they WILL need these world-edit perms to build something reasonable.

    I got nothing to say this is just a must for creative.

    This idea is also a must 100%, this will encourage experienced players to build on Guildcraft over most other servers including singleplayer due to the easy access to plugins and private building. The only problem i find with this is rank tyrant's annoying perk of /tp'ing to you (although there is /tptoggle it is still annoying if you want to de-activate it and re-activate it again) and admins /tpo'ing you when there is 0 problems and they're just bypassing the tp-feature. I believe that when you're in this world, people shouldn't have perms to tp to you and admins should ask the members before tp'ing. Also rules such as innap building should be allowed in this world as noone's gonna see it anyway and staff should focus on making more tolerant rules instead of being strict with them.


    Yup, i just 100% agree with how the ranks are set-up although i think rank should have access to smaller plots (possibly the current normal-sized ones)


    Babyboy <3
     
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  9. TigerStrike

    TigerStrike Mod Mod

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    Although I am not a creative guy, I think these suggesions, being added, would have a huge impact on the server, attracting more people into playing it. A big +1 from me, I like these suggestions a lot.
     
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  10. NetherArmyGC

    NetherArmyGC Quick Digit Member

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    If Creative have the suggestions added just like you said, I'll definitely be playing Creative. As of for now been hanging out in Builders Refuge :D

    Definitely a +1 from me.
     
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  11. Xpart

    Xpart Member Member

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    Nice work man!! :) and would be nicer if they also make it we could spawn mobs using egg spawners or place some redstone machines like pistons
     
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  12. Frxq15

    Frxq15 Kappa Member

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    I feel proud that I’m verified there
     
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  13. Olof

    Olof Honorary Poster Member

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    Since when Creative attracts players... it barely has 10 players
     
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  14. iHasShadowHD

    iHasShadowHD aka Verang Staff Member HeadAdmin

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    Pretty much the main reason this suggestion was made, if you're pesimistic about the server then maybe you should try and encourage people to come and not encouraging them to leave.
     
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  15. Blazimers

    Blazimers Mod Mod

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    These suggestions are about making creative more building-based and not roleplay-based. Your suggestions are just roleplay-based suggestions which could lag the server.

    It hasn't been reset in a long time and it can get around 15 players, if a reset happens it'd get a lot more.
     
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  16. TheRagingCrafter

    TheRagingCrafter Ancient Poster Member

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    Disabling redstone and spawner functions is a thing. That won't cause as much as lag as you think.
     
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  17. Blazimers

    Blazimers Mod Mod

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    it might not cause much lag but it'll cause some which would be a waste since this suggestion is to make creative more building-based, also redstone can be abused by players to make lag machines
     
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  18. Elise1886

    Elise1886 Goddess of Creation Staff Member HeadAdmin

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    Actually, we enabled it for a week about a month ago. Ended up having to disable it because people started making lag machines and creative doesn't have that much RAM to process that stuff. So redstone is a no go
     
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